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brendalaSo, a few little birdies told me that Mystery Incorporated improved in season two and I should give it another chance (despite all my VERY COMPELLING REASONS to avoid it like leprosy). So I tuned into today's new episode because I had nothing better to do this morning.
Today's episode featured a Puritan ghost who attacks teenagers on Lovers Lane for acting "impure". Specifically, he likes to target the teenage girls for dressing like harlots. When the gang first meets the ghost, the ghost chastises one random girl for her low neckline, chastises Daphne for her short skirt, and when he gets to Velma.....he remarks that he wont attack her because she is "plain, wholesome, and completely un-tempting to the male gaze". No, really. I AM NOT EXAGGERATING! THE SHOW REALLY DID THIS AGAIN!!!!
Apparently, despite the fact that Velma's skirt is shorter than Daphne's, even sexually repressed Pilgrims are so repulsed by her hideous, fat, masculine body that it doesn't bother their orthodox sensibilities to see her traipsing about with her legs exposed (because religious rules about modesty only apply to hot chicks).
Believe it or not, it gets worse...
--The episode shows a couple of teenage boys cheering the ghost on as he tells Velma that she's not hot enough to be attacked for immodesty. Her "friends" are right there as this happens; but none of them say or do anything to defend her. Presumably, it's because they agree with the ghost.
--There's a scene at Fred's house where Shaggy AND Scooby tease Velma by saying "What's wrong? Are you upset that you're not 'tempting' enough to get onto the ghost's hit list?"
Again, I am not exaggerating! This happens! These two are back to behaving like total assholes toward her for no goddam reason!!
--Later in the episode, Velma is sitting in the back of the van fiddling on her laptop while the gang sets traps. Scooby gets into the van, smiles, and snuggles up next to her. At first I thought this show might be attempting a cute Scooby/Velma friendship scene. But, surprise surprise, when Velma asked, "Why are you sitting so close to me?", Scooby replied, "Since the ghost doesn't want you, you're the safest place to be right now!".
Well, at least he's not trying to bite off her face or calling her a slut like he was for half of season one. I guess calling her ugly is somewhat of an improvement. -_-
--At the end of the episode, it turns out the ghost was a pair of teenage boys who teamed up and staged the attacks so they could rescue the "hot" girls and gain their affections. The boys went out of their way to avoid attacking/rescuing Velma because EEEEW! WHAT MAN IN HIS RIGHT MIND WOULD WANT TO DATE A FATTIE, AM I RITE?!?!?? I MEAN, JUST LOOK AT THIS MONSTROUS HAM-BEAST!!!!
YOU CAN'T EVEN TELL IT'S A GIRL UNDER THAT FRUMPY TIGHT SWEATER AND MINI-SKIRT!!!!!!
CLEARLY, DAPHNE IS THE ONLY "REAL WOMAN" IN THIS PICTURE!! VELMA'S BODY HAS ICKY BIG BOOBIES AND HIPS AND A BUTT!!! WHAT TEENAGE BOY IN HIS RIGHT MIND WANTS A WOMAN WITH BIG BOOBIES AND HIPS AND A SHAPELY ASS!?!?!? NONE, THAT'S HOW MANY!!!!!
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**sigh**
I tried to give the-show-that-shall-not-be-named another chance because I heard that one of the other season two episodes was focused on Scooby and Velma trying to become BFFs again. I'm pretty sure that whatever good things happened in that episode were just erased when Scooby teamed up with her douchebag ex-boyfriend to remind her how fat, ugly, and unappealing she is.
This shit has no place in a children's show! It's cruel, inappropriate, insulting to the franchise & characters, and just plain wrong. And a vindictive part of me hopes that the reason this show got shafted with long hiatuses and bad scheduling and whatnot is because some executive realized what a mistake this show was and is doing all s/he can to help it die a quiet death.
I should have known better than to do this again.
FUCK THIS SEXIST FUCKING SHOW AND THE CREEPY MISOGYNIST DOG IT RODE IN ON!!!!!
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Date: 2012-09-01 03:50 am (UTC)Again, a big reason why Velma never ought to have had that complex to start with.
And I think Hot Dog Water is hot too. XD But with her hair, glasses, and clothes, she wouldn't be considered a "hottie" like Daphne, Alice May, Mai Li, etc.
Wrong for writing melodrama and romance, I agree. Female protagonists...meh, I actually like Daphne and Velma in this show whenever they're NOT being saddled with "female" issues, if that makes any sense.
No, I haven't seen that movie. (Not a super huge Scooby fan like you, remember?) But if what you say is true, then why weren't those people writing the Scooby/Shaggy/Velma subplot during the first half of the show? It would've made those episodes SO much more tolerable!
Also, I realized that something bugged me about your claim that Shaggy teasing Velma is wrong because he's her ex boyfriend. Are you meaning to say that friends who dates each other, then break up and stay friends, cannot ever poke fun at each other at all? Even if they might have otherwise when they were just friends in the past, pre dating phase? That just doesn't sound right to me. Shaggy and Scooby BOTH teasing Velma came out wrong, I get that. But...not even one of them can do it without being seen as an asshole by you???
Also, saw the "Loopy Gas Shaggy Date Rape" episode today. And yes, it still sucks. XDDD
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Date: 2012-09-01 06:12 pm (UTC)The problem is that 99% of the girls' character developments center around the boys and their romantic relationships. Aside from Velma's interesting relationship with Marcy (which was promptly given the shaft when her "friends" returned and told Velma she had to dump the girl because there was no room in the van), I can't even think of ANY Daphne or Velma moments that weren't centered around "female issues". Heck, the only reason Daphne returned to the gang at all was because her new boy toy turned out to be slightly crazier than Fred (she was happy to leave town to be with her new beau up until then).
Seriously, can you even tell me any significant Daphne or Velma character moments (besides the ones with Marcy) that didn't center around Shaggy or Fred somehow? Because I'm drawing a blank!
No, I haven't seen that movie. (Not a super huge Scooby fan like you, remember?)
LOL. Point taken. ^_^;
Believe it or not, the made-for-TV live action movie is WAY better than the old theatrical ones (though CGI Scooby still looks like ass). The actors are good (even though Fred and Velma don't resemble their animated counterparts all that much) and the story does a great job balancing romance and plot.
And that movie is likely the only canon Shaggy/Velma fans will get that isn't tinged with dysfunction. :(
Are you meaning to say that friends who date each other, then break up and stay friends, cannot ever poke fun at each other at all? Even if they might have otherwise when they were just friends in the past, pre dating phase?
I think the problem is that, unlike Fred and Daphne, Shaggy and Velma were a (dysfunctional) couple from episode one. We as viewers have no clue how they interacted as platonic friends before they hooked up (heck, we don't even know HOW they came to up!).
Maybe they were close before they started dating (or maybe they barely spoke before Velma suddenly got the hots for him). And maybe they liked to rip on each other as a way of showing affection (he called her "chubby", she called him a "dirty hippie", etc). Maybe you're right and Shaggy was just reverting to how he related to her before they started dating and things got awkward between them.
Problem is, that's just speculation because the show itself has only shown those two interacting as a dysfunctional romantic couple, bitter/angry ex-lovers, and then as pair of kids awkwardly trying to salvage a platonic relationship for the sake of their mutual friends. That's the ONLY way we have seen them interact with one another. So we as an audience can only judge them in that context.
And the fact that Shaggy has been intentionally cruel to her before (i.e. hiding their relationship and openly pursuing Velma's friend Mai Lee even after she politely asked him not to) doesn't make me inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. :P
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Date: 2012-09-04 01:09 am (UTC)I recently watched the Nostalgia Critic review for the first theatrical live action Scooby Doo movie. I do enjoy that one for how awful it is, actually. XD As for Shaggy/Velma, wasn't it hinted at in "Pup" alot, or does that not count because they were just kids and thus not into romantic relationships?
I think we're meant to assume that they were just fine as friends like they were in past Scooby shows before they started dating, but this is "Show, Don't Tell" at work. If only we could've had flashbacks that SHOWED what Shaggy, Velma, and Scooby were all like as just friends and how the Shaggy/Velma relationship got started to begin with.
Also, I thought I once said how, while a shmuck move on Shaggy's part, hiding their relationship was not "intentioanlly cruel" on his part, since he was just terribly insecure about the whole thing and didn't want to be a real man yet. The Mai Lee thing, on the other hand, was cruel. As was what he did with Daphne in the loopy gas episode. (Yeah, I hate to keep bringing that up but GAH. Not only did they make it too vague whether or not he was truthful about thinking he was Fred, but ALL THE SAME, he had NO remorse for it! He even gushed about being "kissed by an angel" RIGHT IN FRONT OF FRED AND DAPH! It was just....RRRGH! Stupid, STUPID writing! XD)
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Date: 2012-09-05 04:50 am (UTC)I say "Marcy got the shaft" because the gang dumped her the second Daphne returned and Velma went along with it. It's not like the gang never had a fifth member before (see: Angel); so them refusing to let her stay after all she did for them was bullshit. And character-wise it didn't make sense for Velma to let the others walk all over her and kick Marcy out. Velma KNOWS the gang can't solve a 10-piece jigsaw puzzle without her help. She could have twisted their arms and made them keep her.
I recently watched the Nostalgia Critic review for the first theatrical live action Scooby Doo movie. I do enjoy that one for how awful it is, actually. XD As for Shaggy/Velma, wasn't it hinted at in "Pup" alot, or does that not count because they were just kids and thus not into romantic relationships?
That NC review was AWESOME, wasn't it?
I doubt the creators behind "Pup" intended any romance between Shaggy/Velma. There are a few moments where it comes across that way (like Velma playing the damsel in one of Shaggy's superhero fantasies and Velma basically being Scooby's second BFF); but that may very well have been accidental.
...this is "Show, Don't Tell" at work....
I think that describes many of this show's shortcomings. For most of season one, I was firmly on the "F**k Velma, she had it coming" bandwagon because of the way the show presented her (ie that she forced a timid man-child into a relationship he didn't want and then browbeat him until he finally grew some balls and broke it off). But then the Mai Lee episode happened and we get the implication that HE may have started it and then we witness him being a horn dog with Velma's friend. So now it's impossible to know who's to blame for the train wreck that was their relationship.
but ALL THE SAME, he had NO remorse for it! He even gushed about being "kissed by an angel" RIGHT IN FRONT OF FRED AND DAPH! It was just....RRRGH! Stupid, STUPID writing! XD
AGREED!
I prefer to believe that Shaggy really was loopy because my inner child might die a little if I let myself believe that Shaggy could molest one of his friends. But even if he really was out of it, there's NO excuse to be so tactless about it afterward. Fred should have beat him up. No jury in the world would have convicted him for it. XD
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Date: 2012-09-05 08:07 pm (UTC)Yep! It pointed out all that went wrong with that movie (including ACTUALLY not making "Scrappy as the bad guy" work!), and had Roger the Angel in it, too!
That makes sense. Accidental Ship Teases in kiddie shows happen sometimes.
Agreed with that too. And after the Mai Lee episode seemed to redeem Velma and demonize Shaggy, Velma was made to look like a b**** again afterwards! "Trainwreck of a relationship" is right on more than one level! The Shaggy/Scooby/Velma triangle just sucked so much as a plot point, was entirely meaningless to anything in the end, and I'm glad it's been thrown away as of season 2 aside from one reference to the fact that Velma and Shaggy used to date.
If Shaggy wasn't loopy and did it on purpose, he's a terrible person. But even if he wasn't, he's STILL a jerk if he shows no shame in it and GLOATS about it as well! That's why that episode and "The Night The Clown Cried 2" are the only episodes from this season so far that I can't stand. (I'm not a big fan of the Ghost Pilgrim one either, but I don't HATE it like you do XD) Oddly enough, the same guy wrote both those episodes, but he also wrote the Krampus one that re-aired today. My guess is that the material for that episode was SO awesome that he just couldn't mess it up. ;)
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Date: 2012-09-07 01:30 am (UTC)Oh right. My bad.
Never mind that Daphne had done nothing to EARN her place back in the gang: she just came crawling back to them when her boy toy turned out to be a crazy method actor.
Agreed. I would have been pleasantly surprised if Daphne's return had happened because Daphne missed Velma and felt terrible/ashamed for blaming her for the events of season one. This would have been great character development for the girls and their relationship (that had NOTHING to do with their romantic woes). And it would have made Velma's reluctance to stand up for Marcy a little more understandable.
Having Daphne return simply because she doesn't have a boyfriend to hang out with anymore just makes her look like a flakey bimbo and the rest of the gang look like idiots for choosing her over a smart, dependable person like Marcy.
That makes sense. Accidental Ship Teases in kiddie shows happen sometimes.
And people will read things into a show that the writer(s) never even thought about....
No joke, I've seen people say they hate Pup because they think it has "romantic" Scooby/Velma overtones (because Scooby and Velma are all cutesy & cuddly with each other in that show). O_o
The Shaggy/Scooby/Velma triangle just sucked so much as a plot point, was entirely meaningless to anything in the end, and I'm glad it's been thrown away as of season 2
I'm glad they abandoned it, too. But, at the same time, I'm still angry that it happened AND that it happened for no good reason (ie it didn't tie into the Big Mystery the way we were lead to think it would). All three characters got dragged through the dirt for the sake of some pointless melodrama. That just isn't cool when someone is writing a reboot of a beloved cartoon franchise.
Oddly enough, the same guy wrote both those episodes, but he also wrote the Krampus one that re-aired today. My guess is that the material for that episode was SO awesome that he just couldn't mess it up. ;)
Well, the Krampus episode was pretty complicated. I guess the writer simply didn't have time to insert a romantic subplot or a bunch of sexist fat jokes. LOL
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Date: 2012-09-07 08:18 pm (UTC)And her crawling back to Fred and the group because she lost her boyfriend makes it seem as if mystery solving really isn't that important to her other than as an excuse to hang with Fred. And yet then she STILL doesn't want to be his girlfriend again, so the reasoning behind her coming back makes even LESS sense!
Kids having implied crushes on each other does not = romantic. People got to learn that. (Sorry, Pokeshippers. XD)
Exactly. The whole "this has all happened before" thing made us all think the love triangle would tie into the Big Mystery, but apparently it's now been retconned to be a double-clue to both Cassidy's past relationship with Ricky, and the fact that the team animal causes the group's destruction. And as much as I like MI!Shaggy, MI!Scooby, and MI!Velma now and wish to forget that all that had ever happened between them, part of me will never fully forgive the characters for their deplorable behaviour. Had the writers never attempted it in the first place, I wouldn't have that problem, and MI could've been a consistently enjoyable show the whole way through. *sigh*
The lack of romantic subplots and sexist jokes in that episode, which instead focused solely on the plot, was a big reason I enjoyed it. The other being...c'mon, it's an episode where the characters of "Scooby Doo" pretty much act out an episode of "Scooby Doo" with the purpose of fooling the bad guys into not suspecting what's really up! And that FRED of all people thought up the plan and got so many people to help with it...that was pretty mindblowing. Plus, the "solution" to the Krampus "mystery" made the NC's "*gasp!* Old Man Robot!" joke even more hilarious. XD
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Date: 2012-09-11 04:04 am (UTC)One minute Daphne is a strong character who resists the urge to run back to Fred and the gang; the next she's an idiot who can't live without a boyfriend. One minute Shaggy is a dimwitted manchild with no interest in girls; next he's sexually assaulting one of his friends. Etc....
Seriously, having a scene where Daphne and Velma reconciled and Daphne decided to rejoin for her would have done a LOT to redeem this show. Blaming Velma for the events of season one was a bitch move on Daphne's part. And it bugs me that we never saw her apologize or get called out on it.
.....gosh this is fun. I'm tempted to continue watching MI just so we can keep doing this! XD
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Date: 2012-09-11 02:49 pm (UTC)Glad you think so, too! And you should continue watching MI when the last stretch of the show comes. I know I will, 'cause all this "Nibiru" stuff suggests that big, supernatural, alien, apocalyptic shit is going to go down! Y'know? On a Scooby Doo show! XD
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Date: 2012-09-14 05:38 am (UTC)I'm also morbidly curious about whether or not the Shaggy/Velma thing will be resolved or if the writers will just continue to pretend it never happened (outside of a few snarky barbs from Velma).
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Date: 2012-09-15 10:53 pm (UTC)I'll only want to see it brought out again if Shaggy, Scooby, and Velma all have POSITIVE interactions with one another now and we don't get any of that "having to choose" nonsense anymore. It being brought up again also goes along with the Cassidy thing, since Cassidy admitted that she used to love Ricky but has since moved on because Ricky's a bad, bad person now. Maybe this parallel will somehow have Shaggy become a better person and so he and Velma can give each other another chance, with Scooby NOT objecting this time because he'll still be stuck on Nova, whether she be alive or not. (Which reminds me of how much I actually did love Velma's snark at Shaggy when Scooby was "dumping him" for Nova. It's like "You dumped Scooby for me, then me for Scooby, and now he's dumping YOU for someone of the opposite freaking gender and his own freaking species! Love's a (literal) bitch, isn't it?" XD)
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Date: 2012-10-05 02:51 pm (UTC)If the official tumblr lied about Cassidy's death just to screw with fans, it would be the most epic act of trolling EVER!! XD
My personal theory is that it'll actually be Nova who dies in Scooby's place, because she's a dog who belongs to original MI members.
Yeah. There is NO WAY Warner Bros will let the MI people kill Scooby off (unless it's a "Disney Death" that he magically recovers from later on). And Nova is such a worthless character that it's obvious she's either going to turn evil or get killed (and be added to the list of females who got fridged by this dumb show LOL).
Part of me is still annoyed that the show went out of its way to draw parallels between Scooby/Velma/Shaggy and Pericles/Cassidy/Ricky only to suddenly drop that storyline like a hot potato and not tell us how Cassidy and Ricky's relationship played out. Maybe it'll come up later; but it should have continued to parallel Shaggy&Velma's story instead of being forgotten for 20+ episodes.
And it really confused me when Cassidy's final moments consisted of her giving DAPHNE relationship advice. I mean, why does Cassidy care if Fred & Daphne rekindle their romance or just stay friends? And shouldn't her final "sage advice" moments have been with VELMA instead (aka the kid she was closest to AND who shared similar woes regarding being used by friends, lovers, and animal mascots)!?
It just seems like, once again, Daphne screwed Velma out of time with someone she cared about without even really trying. And people continue to treat her and Fred's romance like some perfect fairy tale when it clearly is not! AAARG!
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Date: 2012-10-05 04:31 pm (UTC)Seriously, that will always be annoying. But if dropping the parallels meant dropping the Shaggy/Velma/Scooby story, and thus the character derailments, I think you should be happy with it. I know I am: I don't miss it at all.
I don't get that either. It's like whoever wrote the episode forgot who should've been in that situation. Or maybe they just used Daphne because her romance with Fred was still a thing going on in the show, whereas Shaggy and Velma were no longer dating.
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Date: 2012-10-06 05:35 pm (UTC)We still don't know why Cassidy's team went from a group of (assumed) friends and lovers similar to the current MI to a bunch of amoral assholes willing to kill one of their own for a shot at some treasure that might not even exist. Maybe the final episodes will finally show us why these kids stopped being friends after Mayor Jones screwed them over (you'd think they would have banded together) and why they sat around doing nothing about the disc/Nibiru thing for the 20 years that passed between their "disappearance" and Fred's team taking up the Mystery Incorporated mantle. But the end of the show is a bit too late to finally give us that (ESPECIALLY now that one of them is presumably dead).
Or maybe they just used Daphne because her romance with Fred was still a thing going on in the show, whereas Shaggy and Velma were no longer dating.
IMO, Cassidy's final moments shouldn't have hinged on her giving romantic advice to ANYONE! Regardless of whether or not Fred/Daphne or Velma/Shaggy belong together; the middle of a life&death investigation is so NOT the time to be hashing out teenage romantic woes. It's just another example of this show's obsession with making the female characters ALL ABOUT THE ROMANCE no matter how much it hurts the plot and how nonsensical it is. That episode was supposidly Cassidy's last huzzah. As one of the few sympathetic characters in this show, she deserved a better swan song than being stuck as Daphne's marriage counselor before becoming some dumb White kids' "Noble Black Shield".
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Date: 2012-10-05 02:56 pm (UTC)WILD PREDICTION TIME:
-My prediction is that Nova will turn evil (possibly due to the influence of the "nibiru" artifacts) and die in Scooby's place.
-Or maybe she's a double agent who acted like a dumb lapdog just to get in with the gang (heck, maybe she can talk, too XD). And the gang will go crazy trying to protect Scooby only to find out too late that his bitch is the one trying to off him.
-And here's my crack theory:
Since we still don't know the full story of what went on between Ricky and Cassidy (besides "she loved him when they were kids and now they're not even friends anymore"), I wonder if he still had feelings for her and is angry/sad that she died a firey death beneath the ocean. After all, they had a working relationship in season one. So they at least possessed the capacity to work together and be civil before she went rogue.
So I think Ricky might turn on Pericles and Fred's bio-Parents in the end as a "screw you" for killing the woman he loved.
-Or maybe it'll be revealed that the old Mystery Inc has been mind-controlled by Nibiru for the past 20 years. And, when they come to their senses, they'll need a LOT of therapy to come to terms with the fact that their lives were used to spread evil and murder their token black friend. XD
OK, now its your turn! ^_^
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Date: 2012-10-05 04:38 pm (UTC)- That's...kind of a stretch. Would be odd if that happened. And if Nova's a double agent, then it'd have to be her own choice rather than Brad and Judy's. Otherwise they would've said something to Pericles about Nova going with the gang, rather than being pissed that they were outsmarted out of the planispheric disc.
- I think Brad and Judy will be the first ones to turn to the good side, then Pericles will backstab Ricky in order to call forth Nibiru, Ricky will realize what a heel he's been and will redeem himself somehow, even if it means dying and re-uniting with Cassidy in death. Oh and Pericles will die too.
- I can see Pericles being controlled by Nibiru, but I think the human members are just bad on their own. If Cassidy wasn't controlled, why would Ricky, Brad, and Judy be?
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Date: 2012-10-06 05:51 pm (UTC)I doubt it. I think the show is setting up a redemption for Mayor Jones. So I think Brad and Judy will stay assholes.
I don't think they're evil enough to straight up kill their son. But I think they're more than willing to hurt the rest of the gang and impede their efforts in a misguided attempt to "help" their kid see things their way.
Pericles will backstab Ricky in order to call forth Nibiru, Ricky will realize what a heel he's been and will redeem himself somehow, even if it means dying and re-uniting with Cassidy in death. Oh and Pericles will die too.
Yeah, those two are totally going to backstab one another. The only question is who is gonna do it first and why.
And I think Ricky going nuts because of Cassidy is a definite possibility because why else would the show imply a "thing" between them only to kill her before resolving it (besides the need to fulfill the "Noble Black Sacrifice" trope LOL)
- I can see Pericles being controlled by Nibiru, but I think the human members are just bad on their own. If Cassidy wasn't controlled, why would Ricky, Brad, and Judy be?
I agree about Pericles (since the curse apparently targets the animals and flashbacks indicate that Pericles might have had a heart at some point).
As for Cassidy escaping the "evil asshole" curse? Well, she was token brainiac of the original team. Maybe she was smart enough to figure out a way to resist it?
This could explain why she was willing to work with Ricky in season one despite the fact that it was clearly a bad idea. She knew that his douchey behavior was the result of a curse. And maybe she naively hoped that the guy she used to love was still in there and she could save him (and Brad and Judy) somehow if she helped Fred's team find the discs. And by the time she gave up hope on this happening, it was already too late.
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Date: 2012-10-07 04:29 am (UTC)And if Jones DOES get redeemed, I'd be pissed. He's done NOTHING to show that he'd be a better parent to Fred than his real ones. He was a total dickwad to Fred the whole time, and only saved his life in the season finale because he was his leverage over Brad and Judy. That, and he was "used to him", I guess. And heck, Brad and Judy might not have turned out as bad as they are now if he hadn't stolen their baby from them in the first place and they could've actually raised the freaking kid!
I get the sense Pericles will backstab Ricky first. If it's the other way around 'cause Ricky saw his treachery coming, I'll be surprised.
That could be it. I hope we find out, assuming Cassidy being "dead" doesn't really mean she's been written out of the storyline.
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Date: 2012-10-12 05:51 am (UTC)It's just the vibe the show is giving me. The Mayor was a major character last season. So I doubt that a non-speaking cameo is the last we'll see of him.
Also, a redemption is the only way I can see the show justifying why Fred chose to continue sharing the same name as the man who destroyed his "real" family.
And if Jones DOES get redeemed, I'd be pissed. He's done NOTHING to show that he'd be a better parent to Fred than his real ones. He was a total dickwad to Fred the whole time, and only saved his life in the season finale because he was his leverage over Brad and Judy.
I disagree about the Mayor being a "bad" parent and I really don't understand why he was painted that way even BEFORE the kidnapping reveal. Think about it; Mayor Jones could have made his life a LOT easier by forcing Fred to stop hanging out with his friends and/or shipping him off to a boarding school once he got bitten by the mystery solving bug and began unwittingly mimicking his real parents. But he allowed Fred to do whatever the hell he wanted and indulged his bizarre hobbies. Even when those hobbies threatened to undermine everything he had worked for.
And not only were all of Fred's basic needs met, but he always had money to buy things like trap components and gas for the Mystery Machine (Fred didn't have a job; so I assume the Mayor gave him an allowance).
Also, the Mayor did things like ensure Fred got tutoring when his grades slipped, pulled strings to get him into his old college fraternity, tried to help Fred woo Daphne (and told the Sheriff he was worried about never getting grandkids), etc. Sure, you can chalk a lot of this up as him "playing the part" of a good father. And the emotional distance he demonstrated came across as borderline abusive at times. But there are a lot of parents out there who aren't good at connecting emotionally and express love by doing stuff like giving generous allowances or trying to craft their kid into their own Mini-Me. And, while that method of parenting isn't very healthy, I've know people like that who undoubtedly love their children.
Also, the Mayor had more to lose by saving Fred than letting him fall to his death. After all, having "leverage" against Brad and Judy isn't doing him any good now, is it?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say the Mayor is a misunderstood saint. I just find the idea of his redemption a lot easier to swallow than Brad and Judy's. Mainly because I find it VERY hard to believe that those two couldn't come get their son before all this shit went down (and Cassidy didn't have much confidence in their love for their kid).
That, and he was "used to him", I guess. And heck, Brad and Judy might not have turned out as bad as they are now if he hadn't stolen their baby from them in the first place and they could've actually raised the freaking kid!
I don't see how having their baby would have made them less likely to grow up to be assholes. If they wanted him that badly, they could have gotten him sooner (heck, they could have asked Cassidy to help them!). Or better yet, they could have opted not to give him away to begin with!
That could be it. I hope we find out, assuming Cassidy being "dead" doesn't really mean she's been written out of the storyline.
It would really suck if Cassidy's fate was left up in the air and the explosion was the last we saw of her. Doing something as ballsy as killing off a main character in a Scooby Doo cartoon is pointless if her death is only confirmed via twitter and not the actual show. Doing that just screws her out of a conclusion to her story arc (since, IMO, the death isn't canon if the viewer has to go to twitter to confirm it because most viewers aren't going to do that). :P